Comparison
Whole juice vs concentrate
What is the difference between cider from whole juice and cider from concentrate?
In short
Whole juice cider ferments the pressed juice of that season’s fruit. Concentrate is made by evaporating most of the water from juice, which allows it to be stored and shipped cheaply and used at any time of year; water is added back before fermentation.
Concentration is a heat and vacuum process and it removes volatile aroma along with the water. Some concentrate is produced with aroma recovery and the recovered fraction added back, but the reconstituted juice is generally aromatically thinner than the original.
The commercial logic is decoupling: a mill running on concentrate is not tied to a harvest window, a local orchard, or a single season’s crop size. The cost is the aromatic loss and the loss of any link between the drink and a particular fruit. Several designations and definitions restrict or exclude concentrate for exactly that reason.
The two things being compared
Each side described in its own terms first, so the table below has something to hang on.
Whole juice
Cider fermented from juice as pressed, with no concentration step and no water added back.
Concentrate
Juice with most of its water evaporated for storage and transport, reconstituted with water before fermentation.
Where they differ
Dimension by dimension. Where a row needs a qualification, it carries one rather than being simplified until it fits.
| Dimension | Whole juice | Concentrate |
|---|---|---|
| Aroma | Intact. | Diminished by the evaporation step, partially restored where an aroma fraction is recovered and returned. |
| Seasonality | Fermentation is tied to the harvest, and vessel capacity must cover the crop. | Production runs year-round from stored stock. |
| Storage and transport | Bulky and perishable; juice must be fermented, chilled or preserved quickly. | Compact and stable, and internationally traded. |
| Traceability to fruit | Direct — cultivar, orchard and season can all be named. | Generally lost; concentrate is blended commodity stock. |
| Cost | Higher per litre of finished cider. | Substantially lower, which is why most volume cider uses it. |
| Regulatory treatment | Permitted everywhere and required by several designations. | Restricted or excluded under a number of designations and campaigning definitions. |
| Juice content on the labelA minimum juice content figure does not by itself tell you whether concentrate was used. | Stated as pressed juice. | Calculated on the reconstituted equivalent, which is why the two look alike on a label. |
Notes under a dimension name qualify the whole row, not one column.
How much concentrate each rule allows
Whether a cider may be made from concentrate is not a matter of taste or tradition alone; it is written down, differently, in almost every framework a cider can be made under. Read side by side, the rules run from a duty definition that counts concentrate and added water towards its juice minimum, through a French regional name that caps concentrate at two-fifths of the must, to protected names that forbid it outright along with water and sugar.
The pattern is consistent: the broader and more commercial the category, the more concentrate it admits, and the narrower the name, the closer it comes to fresh fruit and nothing else. A label that names none of these frameworks says nothing about concentrate either way.
| Framework | Concentrate | Water, sugar and the rest |
|---|---|---|
| UK cider duty | Counts towards the minimum of 35% apple or pear juice, as does juice diluted with water | Below 8.5% alcohol; otherwise taxed as another fermented product |
| Three Counties cider PGIs | Not stated in the passages read | Chaptalisation permitted to about 9.5% potential alcohol before final blending; up to 25% perry pear juice |
| IGP Cidre de Bretagne | Up to 40% of the total must, counted as reconstituted, including any used to sweeten | Carbonation by added gas permitted; caramel the only permitted colouring |
| France, the pur jus mention | None | No water |
| AOP Pays d’Auge | None — no operation that changes the must’s natural sugar | No water, no colouring, no pasteurisation |
| Traditional Welsh Cider PGI | None | No water, and no fermentable sugar except to start a second fermentation in bottle |
| Euskal Sagardoa | None, nor sugars or syrups of any kind | No water, no artificial sweeteners, no added alcohol |
When Whole juice is the relevant one
The circumstances in which this is the thing being described, rather than a reason to prefer it.
- The cider is from a designation or a producer whose specification requires pressed juice.
- You are discussing cultivar or vintage character, which concentrate does not carry.
When Concentrate is the relevant one
The circumstances in which this is the thing being described, rather than a reason to prefer it.
- You are explaining how year-round large-scale production is possible.
- The subject is the international juice trade or cost structure.
A misconception worth clearing up
This comparison exists partly because of the claim below, which is repeated often enough that most readers arrive holding it.
A high juice-content figure on the label proves the cider was made from fresh-pressed apples.
What is actually the case: Juice content is calculated on reconstituted concentrate as well as on pressed juice, so a full-juice claim is compatible with concentrate. Whether concentrate was used is a separate question, answered by the specification or by asking the producer.
Related comparisons
Distinctions that turn on the same thing, or that this one is routinely confused with.
"Craft cider" vs "traditional cider"
"Craft" is a market positioning term about scale and intent; "traditional" is a claim about method and regional practice. Neither is defined in law, but they are claims about different things.
"Real cider" vs "craft cider"
"Real cider" is a defined campaigning term with stated criteria; "craft cider" has no agreed definition and no body maintaining one, so the two are not comparable claims.
Freeze concentration vs cryoextraction
Both use cold to concentrate sugar, but freeze concentration freezes juice already pressed, while cryoextraction presses fruit that froze on the tree.
What people ask next
Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.
- What does real cider mean, and is it the same as craft cider — Neither is a legal term. Real cider is a campaigning definition about method — fresh juice, no concentrate, no injected gas — while craft cider is a market description with no agreed boundary at all.
- Is craft cider the same as traditional cider
- What is the difference between cryoconcentration and cryoextraction in ice cider
Where to go next
- All comparisons — The rest of the pairs, grouped by what kind of difference is at stake.
- Glossary — Either term on its own, defined without a second thing to hold it against.
- Learn about cider — The background these pages assume, written from the beginning.
Sources
What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.
National Association of Cider Makers
NACM · specialist organisation · retrieved 2026-08-24
The UK trade association. Useful for industry-agreed definitions and for the voluntary labelling standards its members work to. A trade body has an interest in how its product is described, so CiderHQ cites it for what the industry says about itself rather than for neutral scientific claims.
European Cider and Fruit Wine Association (AICV)
AICV · specialist organisation · retrieved 2026-08-24
Alcoholic Products Technical Guide, section 2 — alcoholic products (formerly Excise Notice 162)
HM Revenue & Customs · regulator · passage verified 2026-08-24
What may be called cider or perry for UK duty purposes. The substantive text now lives in section 2 of the Alcoholic Products Technical Guide rather than in the notice itself, and the passages below were read there. The widely repeated "35% juice" figure checks out — but note two things the figure alone hides: it is a tax threshold rather than a quality standard, and concentrate and dilution both count towards it.
Hochschule Geisenheim University — beverage technology
Hochschule Geisenheim · university · retrieved 2026-08-24
German beverage-technology research covering apple wine and fruit juice processing, including the enzymology of clarification.
UK protected geographical food and drink names register
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs · government · passage verified 2026-08-25
The register itself is an index; the substance is in the product specification attached to each entry as a PDF. Eight cider and perry specifications were downloaded and read on 2026-08-24 — the six Three Counties names and the two Welsh ones. Reading them settled a question CiderHQ had previously described in the abstract and got wrong: the Three Counties specifications state a composition table, not a minimum juice content. The Traditional Welsh Perry specification was re-read on 2026-08-25 for the comparison with Austrian fruit-wine law, and its prohibition list transcribed in full: the two instruments turn out to regulate opposite things, one composition and one technique.
Institut national de l’origine et de la qualité (INAO)
INAO · regulator · passage verified 2026-08-24
The Cidre Pays d’Auge cahier des charges was read in full on 2026-08-24, in the version homologated by arrêté of 17 January 2026 and published in the Journal officiel on 21 January. That qualification is not decoration. A revision adopted by the Comité national on 10 September 2025 is currently under the procédure nationale d’opposition, is clearly marked as not prejudging the final text, and specifies carbonation differently from the text in force — as grams of CO2 per litre rather than as a minimum pressure in bar. A summary citing the draft would have put a figure on the page that no producer is held to. CiderHQ records the operative text and says which one it is.
Révision du décret cidre : le nouveau décret entre en vigueur au 1er juillet 2025
Union Nationale Interprofessionnelle Cidricole (UNICID), Jean-Louis Benassi · specialist organisation · passage verified 2026-08-24
The French cider interbranch organisation’s own briefing on the 2025 décret, read in full on 2026-08-24. It is registered because the primary text could not be retrieved verbatim and this one reproduces the operative sweetness table, and it is registered at tier 2 rather than tier 1 because an interbranch body explaining a decree is not the decree. Where it is cited, it is cited for what the instrument says, alongside the instrument.
Euskal Sagardoa Fundazioa, Astigarraga, with the Iparraldeko sagarnoen sindikata · designation authority · passage verified 2026-08-25
The current specification behind the Euskal Sagardoa file, retrieved as PDF and read on 2026-08-25. It is a cross-border document: the protected area now runs from the three Basque provinces of Spain across the frontier into Soule, Basse-Navarre and Labourd, with the French communes listed one by one against the 2023 official geographic code, and the name itself acquires French forms. Read alongside the EU register, which still records the file as applied rather than registered. It also adds a fourth apple class, *dulces*, to the acid, bitter and bittersharp classes the earlier versions used — four cultivars only: Aran Gorri, Mamula, Muga Gorri and Ondo Motxa.