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Perry pear

Pine

A Three Counties perry pear whose name claims a pineapple character in the fruit, a comparison that was a standard compliment in English fruit naming.

Also written Pine Pear, Pineapple Pear.

Classification
Sweet — Perry pear classification
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Sometimes bottled on its own
Blend role
Aroma, Sugar and body
Origin
Gloucestershire and Herefordshire
Species
Pyrus communis
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Vigorous
Biennial bearing
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking

How it is classified

Perry pear classification

Sweet

Low acid, low tannin. Mild perry pears giving soft, light perry.

Low acid and low tannin. The class placement rests on descriptive material rather than analysis.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidLow
TanninLight
SugarHigh
BitternessNone
AstringencySlight
AromaPronounced
BodyMedium
Based on: description rather than analysis

Descriptive material, with the aroma band raised because the cultivar’s name and its descriptions both emphasise scent.

A sweet, low-acid juice with a distinctly aromatic character; whether it resembles pineapple is a matter of perception rather than a property of the fruit.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Pine, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Pine into a blend

Measured analysis

No analysis recorded

CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Pine. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Vigorous
Cropping
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking

Late September into October. The National Perry Pear Collection records it ripening in late October or early November at Hartpury, one band later than the mid window recorded here.

Mid-season. Self-incompatible. The National Perry Pear Collection places it in the mid flowering band, from flowering records kept over many seasons.

Pears need a pollinator

Pears are not self-fertile. A variety needs another in blossom at the same time to set fruit, which is why the flowering band matters more in a perry orchard than the harvest window does.

Ripening moves with the site and the season. Where the National Perry Pear Collection’s observation at Hartpury falls in a different band from the window recorded here, both are kept rather than one overwriting the other.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Pear scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Sometimes bottled on its own

Made alone occasionally, on the strength of the aroma. There is no structure behind it.

About Pine

A pineapple in eighteenth-century England was an extraordinary object: grown in heated pits at great expense, displayed rather than eaten, and used as the standard reference for the highest possible quality in a fruit. Attaching Pine or Pineapple to a homegrown variety was a way of saying it was as good as fruit got, and the name was applied liberally to apples, pears, strawberries and gooseberries. It should be read as a claim about status, not as a tasting note.

The pear itself is low in acid, low in tannin and distinctly aromatic. That aroma is real and is what the naming was reaching for, though whether it resembles pineapple is a question about perception rather than about the fruit. In a blend it supplies scent to pears that have none.

Because the name was used generically, records referring to a Pine or Pineapple pear cannot be relied on to mean this cultivar. That is a familiar problem in this file, and the appropriate response is to say so rather than to assume continuity.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

Unrecorded. Pine is short for pineapple, a fruit that in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries was the standard reference point for an exceptional flavour, and the name was applied to a good many English fruits.

Other names this fruit is known by. Each is a name for the same cultivar, not a separate one — which is why none of them has a page of its own.
NameKindNote
PineappleDisputed identityPine in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century English fruit naming is short for pineapple, and both forms are recorded for this pear. Whether every tree called Pineapple is this cultivar is not established.

The National Perry Pear Collection’s identifications are supported by DNA analysis of the trees it holds, which is why they are treated here as the stronger account where they conflict with a documentary one. Where the collection records a name for two varieties it holds as distinct, the name identifies a group of trees rather than one variety, and fruit offered under it needs checking against something other than its label.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

What people ask next

Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.

Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.