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Perry pear

White Longdon

A pale-fruited member of the Longdon group, giving a lighter and sharper juice than its red namesake.

Also written Longdon White.

Classification
Medium sharp — Perry pear classification
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Rarely bottled on its own
Blend role
Acid lift, Bulk juice
Origin
Longdon, Worcestershire
Species
Pyrus communis
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Vigorous
Biennial bearing
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking

How it is classified

Perry pear classification

Medium sharp

Moderate acid with low to moderate tannin.

Moderate acid with low tannin, placed from descriptive material. No published analysis of this cultivar has been verified.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidModerate
TanninLight
SugarModerate
BitternessNone
AstringencySlight
AromaPresent
BodyMedium
Based on: its recorded classification

Descriptive accounts held in the national collection material rather than analysis. These bands were authored from description; published analyses of this fruit have since been transcribed onto the record from named trial programmes and are shown above. The bands are not derived from those figures, which is why this profile is marked as classified rather than measured.

A pale, clean juice of moderate sharpness, without the grip of the red-fruited Longdons.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for White Longdon, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put White Longdon into a blend

Measured analysis

Each figure is shown with where and when it was taken. They are not averaged: the same cultivar grown in another climate genuinely gives different numbers, and collapsing them into one would be the most misleading thing this page could do.

Reported analyses of White Longdon, by property and source
PropertyReadingWhereWhenSource
Free amino nitrogen41.3 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Phenolic acids160.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Proline252.2 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Specific gravity1.063 SGGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Titratable acidity5.0 g/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total amino acids227.5 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total phenolics600.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total tannin440.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
How these were measured
  • Juice pressed from fruit collected in the Three Counties and frozen before analysis. Published to five decimal places and shown at the three the site displays.
  • Titration, reported as malic acid.
  • “True tannin” — the polymerised phenolic fraction, measured separately from the phenolic acids. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • Phenolic acids measured separately from the tannin fraction. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • The sum of the true tannin and phenolic acid fractions as the surveyor reports it. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • HPLC. The whole amino acid pool by mass, assimilable and non-assimilable together.
  • Free amino nitrogen, calculated from the individual amino acids as nitrogen available to yeast. Excludes proline.
  • HPLC.
  • One sample from one source in one season. The surveyor reports the same variety differing markedly between years, sites and tree types, and publishes the samples separately rather than pooling them.
  • Measured as “true tannin” — the polymerised phenolic fraction — separately from the phenolic acids. It is not a Folin–Ciocalteu total and not a permanganate total, and should be compared only with figures produced the same way.
  • Perry pear juice runs far lower in assimilable nitrogen than cider apple juice, a difference the Long Ashton workers reported and this survey confirms across most of the varieties sampled. Several readings here sit below the level at which a ferment is generally expected to need feeding.
  • Proline is an amino acid a wine or cider yeast cannot assimilate without oxygen, so it does not count towards usable nitrogen. In these pear juices it routinely exceeds the whole assimilable amino pool, which is why a perry must can be rich in amino acids and starved of nitrogen at the same time.

Compare within a study to see where these figures sat among the other cultivars the same work analysed — which is a more robust statement than the figures themselves, because absolute values move between laboratories and the ordering inside one study mostly survives.

Watched in the orchard

What named research programmes recorded about this fruit at their own sites. Bloom, harvest and cropping belong to a place and a run of seasons rather than to a cultivar, so they are reported site by site rather than merged.

Three Counties perry pear juice survey

Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties — the perry country itself, rather than a research station elsewhere · 2022–2024 · Cider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)

The lower Severn and Wye vales: mild, wet, and the only ground in Britain where perry pears have ever been grown at scale. Fruit was collected across three autumns, and the survey reports each collection separately rather than pooling the seasons.

Held as
Sample WhL-Oct22

Juice from single varieties, frozen before analysis. Specific gravity; titratable acidity by titration as malic acid; “true tannin” and phenolic acids measured as separate fractions; individual amino acids by HPLC, with free amino nitrogen calculated from them and proline reported apart because yeast cannot assimilate it anaerobically. Where samples differed by location, tree age or year, they are reported separately.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Vigorous
Cropping
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking

Late September to early October, with the usual short window. The National Perry Pear Collection records it ripening in the middle or later part of September at Hartpury, one band earlier than the mid window recorded here.

Mid-season. Self-incompatible. The National Perry Pear Collection places it in the mid flowering band, from flowering records kept over many seasons.

Pears need a pollinator

Pears are not self-fertile. A variety needs another in blossom at the same time to set fruit, which is why the flowering band matters more in a perry orchard than the harvest window does.

Ripening moves with the site and the season. Where the National Perry Pear Collection’s observation at Hartpury falls in a different band from the window recorded here, both are kept rather than one overwriting the other.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Pear scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Rarely bottled on its own

Rarely encountered alone. Where it is, the result is a light perry with little to distinguish it from other medium-sharp Three Counties fruit.

About White Longdon

White Longdon is the pale-fruited pear of the Longdon group, and the least documented of the four. Where Winnal’s Longdon has a reputation and Red Longdon has a described character, White Longdon is known chiefly as a name in the collection and as a small number of surviving trees.

What is recorded of the juice puts it with the medium-sharp perry pears: moderate acid, low tannin, a clean ferment and nothing much to build on. That is the commonest character among Three Counties perry pears and it makes for perfectly serviceable perry without giving a maker any particular reason to seek it out.

Its interest is largely as a case study in perry pear naming. Four cultivars, one parish, and colour words as the only distinguishing terms — applied to fruit that changes colour as it ripens. It is not surprising that the four have been conflated in orchard records; it would be surprising if they had not.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

Parish tradition, with no documented raising and no record of how the four Longdon pears relate to one another.

Other names this fruit is known by. Each is a name for the same cultivar, not a separate one — which is why none of them has a page of its own.
NameKindNote
Bastard BarlandRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.
Bastard LongdonRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.
DandoeRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.
GarradineRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.
LonglandDisputed identityThe National Perry Pear Collection records this name for White Longdon, and also for Green Longdon and Winnal’s Longdon — varieties the collection holds as distinct and has separated by DNA. The name therefore identifies a group of trees rather than one variety, and a fruit offered under it needs checking against something other than its label.
LonglandsRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.
PortRegional nameRecorded as a synonym of White Longdon by the National Perry Pear Collection.

The National Perry Pear Collection’s identifications are supported by DNA analysis of the trees it holds, which is why they are treated here as the stronger account where they conflict with a documentary one. Where the collection records a name for two varieties it holds as distinct, the name identifies a group of trees rather than one variety, and fruit offered under it needs checking against something other than its label.

Why it matters

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

What people ask next

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Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Research Evidence standard for this record. What that means.