History
The Long Ashton breeding programme
Where do modern English cider apples come from?
In short
Almost all of them come from somewhere nobody planned. The English cider repertoire is a repertoire of found trees: a seedling noticed in a hedge, in a churchyard, on a farm, named after wherever it stood and propagated by grafting. Breeding, in the sense of making a deliberate cross and selecting from the offspring, is a twentieth-century arrival.
The Long Ashton programme is the main exception. Funded by the Bulmers, Taunton and Showerings cider companies and run at the University of Bristol’s research station, it crossed four cultivars in four combinations and raised roughly 1,500 seedlings, of which some two dozen were named and released.
They were named, almost without exception, after women — Angela, Fiona, Gilly, Joanna, Lizzy — and are known collectively as “The Girls”. Which cross each came from was subsequently lost, and was recovered in 2020 by genotyping.
What the programme actually did
Four cultivars, in four crosses. Dabinett and Michelin supplied the bittersweet side; James Grieve and Worcester Pearmain supplied acid and, in James Grieve’s case, a Scottish hardiness the West Country fruit did not have. The seedling numbers were unequal: about 500 from Dabinett × James Grieve, 650 from Michelin × James Grieve, 200 from Dabinett × Worcester Pearmain and 150 from Michelin × Worcester Pearmain.
The choice of parents says what the programme was for. Dabinett and Michelin were, and remain, the two most widely planted English cider apples, valued for reliable tannin and manageable trees rather than for character. Crossing them with sharp dessert fruit was an attempt to keep the tannin and the tree habit while adding acid — which is exactly the correction a West Country blend needs and which the traditional repertoire supplies by blending rather than by breeding.
The station closed in 2003. Its cider work had in fact ended earlier: the Pomology and Plant Breeding Division and the Food and Beverage Division were both closed in 1981, and arable crops replaced pomology as the site’s main research. The National Association of Cider Makers took over responsibility for cider pomology research in 1990, and its archive is where much of the programme’s surviving documentation now sits.
What was lost, and how it was recovered
The parentage of the individual selections went missing. That sounds careless and is ordinary: a programme raising fifteen hundred seedlings across four crosses keeps its records in the working documents of the people running it, and those people retire, the division closes, and the trees continue to exist without them.
In 2019 a University of Bristol team genotyped 245 apple cultivars at 1,500 single-nucleotide polymorphism markers, drawing samples from the surviving Long Ashton-derived trees, from the John Innes Centre, from a commercial cider maker’s heritage orchards and from transplanted trees. The explicit objective was to recover the parentage of The Girls, and it did.
The result splits them into three groups rather than one. Fourteen selections group with Dabinett and James Grieve; seven with Michelin and James Grieve; two with Dabinett and Worcester Pearmain. Four more — Amelia, Connie, Eleni and Nicky — could not be resolved, because only two samples of each were available and the two disagreed, and the study says so rather than picking one.
What the same study found by accident
Two findings in the paper have nothing to do with the breeding programme and are more useful than most of what the site can say about cultivar identity.
The first is a rate. Of 76 cultivars sampled in replicate from different orchards, 59 clustered with themselves and 17 did not — meaning that in nearly a quarter of cases, two trees carrying the same label were not the same fruit. That is the identity problem quantified from inside a collection, by people who went looking, rather than asserted as a general caution.
The second is a limit. The method separated every cultivar sampled except sports: Cox’s Orange Pippin and Queens Cox differed by a single marker, and Tom Putt and Red Tom Putt were 99.6 per cent identical. A sport is a mutation in a single branch propagated onward, so genetically it is the parent cultivar with a small local change, and a marker panel designed to tell cultivars apart cannot tell those apart. Genotyping settles a great deal about cider apple identity and it does not settle everything.
The third is a warning about the alternative. Two Dorset trees found in a search for old cider apples, judged the same variety because they had the same growth habit and the same juicing characteristics, turned out to share only half their markers. Identifying fruit by how it behaves is a method that fails in exactly the way it cannot detect.
What the selections are actually like
Much less is known about them as fruit than as genomes, which is an unusual thing to be able to say about an apple. No juice analysis of any of the selections has been published anywhere CiderHQ has reached.
What exists is a one-page assessment from a 2005 rootstock trial at Kinnersley in Herefordshire, where fifteen selections were grown on an M9 interstock over three rootstocks and each given a line of description and a taste classification. Three Counties was assessed as a full bittersweet, Angela as a full bittersharp, Jean as a high-acid bittersweet. Gilly was poor and ugly on one rootstock and very good on the other two; Prince William was weak on all three.
That trial is worth reading as a demonstration of something separate. The same selection on three rootstocks gave three different trees, and the difference between them was larger than the difference between several of the selections. A cultivar’s habit is not a property of the cultivar alone.
The table below is where CiderHQ holds these twelve. Until Mega Sprint 7 each had a page of its own, and that was the wrong shape: with no juice analysis published for any of them, a page per selection could carry a name, a cross and one assessment word, and every other sentence on it was a sentence about the programme. Twelve pages were one page twelve times. Sorted by assessment rather than by cross they become something twelve separate pages could never be — a list a reader can compare, in which the Dabinett crosses spread across the entire bittersweet-to-bittersharp range while the Michelin crosses cluster in the middle of it. The records themselves stay in the graph, so the programme’s output remains countable and the parentage edges from Dabinett, Michelin and James Grieve are intact.
| Selection | Cross | Orchard assessment |
|---|---|---|
| Three Counties | Dabinett × James Grieve | Full bittersweet |
| Jean | Dabinett × James Grieve | High-acid bittersweet |
| Hastings | Dabinett × James Grieve | Medium bittersweet |
| Lizzy | Michelin × James Grieve | Medium bittersweet |
| Amanda | Michelin × James Grieve | Mild bittersweet |
| Prince William | Michelin × James Grieve | Mild bittersweet |
| Angela | Dabinett × James Grieve | Full bittersharp |
| Gilly | Dabinett × James Grieve | Medium bittersharp |
| Joanna | Michelin × James Grieve | Medium bittersharp |
| Fiona | Dabinett × James Grieve | Mild bittersharp |
| Willy | Dabinett × James Grieve | Mild bittersharp |
| Hannah | Dabinett × Worcester Pearmain | None recorded |
Why it matters beyond the fruit
The programme is the clearest case in English cider of research changing what is planted. The selections were bred to a specification — the tannin and habit of a modern bittersweet with acid added — and several of them are grown commercially, which means the composition of English orchards today reflects a decision taken in a laboratory rather than only the accumulation of found trees.
It is also a case study in how easily institutional knowledge is lost. The trees survived, the names survived, and the single piece of information that made them scientifically legible — which cross each came from — did not. Recovering it took a genotyping study run more than fifty years after the crosses were made, and four of the selections were not recovered at all.
Also answered on this page
Questions this page covers, so you can tell at a glance whether it is the one you want.
- Who bred modern cider apples?
- What are “The Girls” cider apples?
- What was Long Ashton Research Station?
- How do you find out an apple’s parentage?
- How often are apple trees labelled wrongly?
Related
Cultivar
Dabinett
One of the two bittersweet parents.
Cultivar
Michelin
The other.
Cultivar
James Grieve
The Scottish sharp that supplied the acid in three quarters of the seedlings.
Cultivar
Worcester Pearmain
Cultivar
Three Counties
Assessed as the only full bittersweet in the trial.
Cultivar
Angela
And the fullest bittersharp.
Cultivar
Hannah
One of two selections from the smallest cross, and one about which nothing else is recorded.
Topic
Rootstocks and what they control
Why the same selection gave three different trees.
Topic
How cider apples are classified
Topic
Why a perry pear’s name does not identify it
The same identity problem, in the fruit where it is worst.
What people ask next
Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.
- What does a rootstock actually do, and what do the m numbers mean — Every named apple cultivar is propagated by grafting a shoot of it onto the root system of a different tree. That root system, the rootstock, controls vigour and therefore final tree size, how quickly the tree comes into bearing, how long it will live, how well it anchors itself, and how it tolerates waterlogging and certain soil-borne diseases.
- What is dabinett — The most widely planted English cider apple: a late bittersweet with soft, full tannin that ferments into a cider needing very little added to it. Long Ashton measured it at 0.18 per cent acid and 0.29 per cent tannin.
- Why do the same apples get classified differently in different countries — Because the schemes cut on different thresholds and in different units. Long Ashton splits four ways on acid and tannin; the French scheme splits five ways and reports acidity as sulphuric rather than malic. A cultivar can also genuinely change class when grown in another climate.
- What is a michelin apple
Sources
What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.
Harper, Winfield, Copas, Przewieslik-Allen, Barker, Burridge, Hughes, Davies and Edwards, University of Bristol, in PLANTS, PEOPLE, PLANET 2(2) · peer-reviewed literature · passage verified 2026-08-25 · covers 1950s–2019
Open access under CC BY, read on 2026-08-25. The single most useful genetics source CiderHQ has found for cider apples: 245 cultivars genotyped at 1,500 SNP markers, with the explicit aim of recovering the parentage of the Long Ashton breeding selections known collectively as “The Girls”. It is the reason this site can now separate a genetically supported parentage from a traditional attribution and mean something by the distinction. It also quantifies the identity problem from inside a collection — 17 of 76 cultivars sampled in replicate failed to cluster with themselves — and demonstrates the boundary of the method, which cannot separate a sport from the cultivar it arose on.
Kinnersley M9 Interstock Trial (NACM Short Report 6.5)
National Association of Cider Makers, Archive of Cider Pomology · research institute · passage verified 2026-08-25 · covers 2005
A one-page assessment, dated May 2005, of fifteen numbered breeding selections at Kinnersley in Herefordshire — all on an M9 interstock, each grown on three different rootstocks, each with a one-line taste classification. Its value is that twelve of the fifteen are named selections from the Long Ashton programme whose parentage was later established genetically, so the same trees can be described both by what they are and by how they behaved.
Hereford Cider Museum Trust / National Association of Cider Makers · historical source · retrieved 2026-08-25 · covers 1989–2012
The single most useful discovery of Mega Sprint 4. When the Ministry closed Long Ashton’s cider work, the National Association of Cider Makers took over cider pomology research; the resulting archive is held at the Hereford Cider Museum and publishes some seventy-five research reports openly, including compilations of Long Ashton material that had otherwise reached the present only through books. It is the route by which CiderHQ finally obtained per-cultivar perry pear figures, having failed to reach the 1963 volume they originate in.
Long Ashton Research Station cider fruit analyses
National Fruit and Cider Institute / University of Bristol · research institute · registered as competent for this subject · covers 1903–2003
The foundational body of cider-fruit science in English. Long Ashton produced the acid-and-tannin classification that divides cider apples into sweet, sharp, bittersweet and bittersharp, and analysed hundreds of cultivars grown at its Somerset site. Its figures are historic measurements of specific fruit at a specific place, not universal constants — a distinction CiderHQ preserves in every measurement record that cites it.
Where to go next
- The history of cider — The rest of the history, by period and by tradition.
- Cider culture — What survived from this history and is still practised.
- Regions — The places this happened in, and what they make now.