Perry pear
Turner’s Barn
A perry pear named after the building it stood beside, and a good example of how specifically and how uselessly perry pears were named.
Also written Turners Barn, Turner’s Barn Pear.
- Classification
- Medium sharp — Perry pear classification
- Harvest
- Mid (Late September to mid October)
- Single varietal
- Rarely bottled on its own
- Blend role
- Bulk juice, Acid lift
- Origin
- Gloucestershire
- Species
- Pyrus communis
- Flowering
- Mid flowering band
- Vigour
- Vigorous
- Biennial bearing
- Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
- Keeping
- Poor — mill soon after picking
How it is classified
Perry pear classification
Medium sharp
Moderate acid with low to moderate tannin.
Moderate acid with light tannin, from descriptive material.
Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.
What it contributes to a blend
A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.
| Axis | Typical | Range |
|---|---|---|
| Acid | Moderate | |
| Tannin | Light | |
| Sugar | Moderate | |
| Bitterness | None | |
| Astringency | Slight | |
| Aroma | Present | |
| Body | Medium |
Collection descriptive material only.
A clean, moderately sharp juice with light tannin.
Aroma
No aroma descriptors are recorded for Turner’s Barn, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.
Measured analysis
CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Turner’s Barn. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.
In the orchard
- Harvest window
- Mid
- Flowering
- Mid flowering band
- Vigour
- Vigorous
- Cropping
- Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
- Keeping
- Poor — mill soon after picking
Autumn, in the main window; the record does not fix it more closely. The National Perry Pear Collection records it ripening in the first half of October at Hartpury, which agrees with the window recorded here.
Presumed mid-season and self-incompatible. The National Perry Pear Collection places it in the mid flowering band, from flowering records kept over many seasons.
Pears are not self-fertile. A variety needs another in blossom at the same time to set fruit, which is why the flowering band matters more in a perry orchard than the harvest window does.
Ripening moves with the site and the season. Where the National Perry Pear Collection’s observation at Hartpury falls in a different band from the window recorded here, both are kept rather than one overwriting the other.
Disease and pest susceptibility
| Issue | Susceptibility | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Pear scab | moderate | — |
How it is used
- A local perry pear with no recorded tradition of separate use.
On its own
Rarely bottled on its own
No established tradition; the surviving population would not support one.
About Turner’s Barn
Turner’s Barn is named after a barn belonging to a man called Turner. It is the most local kind of perry pear name — not a parish, not a farm, but a single building — and it demonstrates both the precision and the futility of the naming habit. Whoever coined it knew exactly which tree they meant. A century later nobody knows where the barn was.
This is the fundamental problem with the perry pear record. The names were made by people who did not need them to travel, for trees that were not going anywhere, in a landscape where everyone knew whose barn was whose. When the orchards were grubbed and the farms amalgamated, the names survived on grafted trees in other people’s orchards and the referents did not.
The pear gives a moderately sharp juice with light tannin. It survives in very small numbers and is held in collections, which is the reason this record exists at all.
Names, origin and identity
Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.
Origin · traditional account
Unrecorded beyond the name. A barn belonging to a man called Turner is as precise a location as perry pear naming gets, and it is not precise enough to find.
| Name | Kind | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Barn | Disputed identity | The National Perry Pear Collection records this name for Turner’s Barn, and also for Barnet — a variety the collection holds as distinct and has separated by DNA. |
| Long Stalk | Regional name | Recorded as a synonym of Turner’s Barn by the National Perry Pear Collection. |
| Longstalk | Disputed identity | The National Perry Pear Collection records this name for Turner’s Barn, and also for Sack — a variety the collection holds as distinct and has separated by DNA. |
| Longstuck | Disputed identity | The National Perry Pear Collection records this name for Turner’s Barn, and also for Sack — a variety the collection holds as distinct and has separated by DNA. |
The National Perry Pear Collection’s identifications are supported by DNA analysis of the trees it holds, which is why they are treated here as the stronger account where they conflict with a documentary one. Where the collection records a name for two varieties it holds as distinct, the name identifies a group of trees rather than one variety, and fruit offered under it needs checking against something other than its label.
Why it matters
- Known from very few trees, and dependent on collection propagation for survival.
Related cultivars
Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.
Fruit that plays a similar part
Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.
Blakeney Red
The most widely planted perry pear of the Three Counties, taking its name from the Gloucestershire village of Blakeney and grown for perry, for canning and, during the First World War, for dye.
Berllanderi Green
A Monmouthshire perry pear named after the farm near Raglan where it was found, and known from a very small number of trees.
Green Horse
A Herefordshire perry pear of large fruit and vigorous growth, giving a moderately sharp juice used both alone and in blends.
Brown Bess
A russeted Three Counties perry pear whose name is shared with an infantry musket, without either being named for the other on any recorded evidence.
High Pear
A mid-season Three Counties perry pear of balanced juice and reasonable nitrogen, named — as far as anyone knows — for the height of the tree.
Holmer
A perry pear named for a parish now absorbed into the northern edge of Hereford, and a marker of how far perry orchards once reached into what is now a city.
Where it grows
What people ask next
Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.
- What is perry — Perry is an alcoholic drink made by fermenting the juice of pears, traditionally of specific perry pear cultivars rather than eating pears. It is to pears what cider is to apples, and has its own history in the three counties of England and in Normandy.
- When are cider apples harvested — In the northern hemisphere the cider harvest runs from about September to November, with late bittersweets such as Dabinett and Vilberie coming in last. Cider fruit is generally picked riper than dessert fruit, and often gathered from the ground.
- What is gregg’s pit perry — A Herefordshire perry pear, and one of the few made and sold as a single variety. Long Ashton measured its juice at 5.7 g/L acid and 1.1 g/L tannin; a modern survey found 4.0 g/L acid and moderate phenolics with unusually good assimilable nitrogen at 42 mg/L.
- How are perry pears classified — Perry pears are conventionally divided by acid and tannin into sweet, medium sharp, bittersharp and bittersweet, following the scheme used in the English perry literature. Sorbitol content matters too, and it does not appear in the classes.
- Where are perry pears grown
- Is cider made in monmouthshire
Where to go next
- How cider apples are classified — Why there are four schemes and none of them is universal.
- The blend explorer — See which way changing the proportions moves a blend.
- Blending — What a cider maker is actually deciding when they build a blend.
Sources
What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.
National Perry Pear Centre, Hartpury · specialist organisation · passage verified 2026-08-24
Read on 2026-08-24 — and the address CiderHQ had registered, perrypears.co.uk, is no longer the Centre at all. It fails the TLS handshake over https, and over plain http it resolves to a Sedo domain-parking page: an earlier pass in this sprint recorded it as retrieved on the strength of an HTTP 200, which was wrong, and the correction is the point. The Centre publishes at nationalperrypearcentre.org.uk. It is the closest thing British perry has to an identity authority: it holds at least two examples of most known varieties, states that the DNA of most of them has been determined and is used as an aid to identification, and publishes a variety register with synonym lists. Its 121-variety register is transcribed into the perry pear records, including the nineteen names it shows being claimed by more than one variety.
Gloucestershire Orchard Trust · specialist organisation · retrieved 2026-08-24
WPCS · specialist organisation · retrieved 2026-08-24
Documents Welsh cider and perry traditions and has done substantial work identifying and conserving Welsh perry pear cultivars that were close to being lost.
Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.