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Gregg’s Pit

A Herefordshire perry pear named after the Much Marcle holding where the original tree still stands, and one of the few perry pears whose parent tree can be visited.

Also written Greggs Pit, Gregg’s Pit Pear.

Classification
Medium sharp — Perry pear classification
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Established as a single-varietal cider
Blend role
Acid lift, Aroma, Vintage quality
Origin
Gregg’s Pit, Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Species
Pyrus communis
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Very vigorous — a large tree that takes years to settle to cropping
Biennial bearing
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking
Evidence
Analysed in 2 sources, watched at 1 trial site

How it is classified

Perry pear classification

Medium sharp

Moderate acid with low to moderate tannin.

Moderate acid with light to moderate tannin. The cultivar has a working reputation among makers that rests on the perry rather than on any published analysis.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished drink will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidHigh
TanninModerate
SugarModerate
BitternessSlight
AstringencyNoticeable
AromaPronounced
BodyMedium
Based on: its recorded classification

Maker and collection description of a moderately sharp, lightly tannic and aromatic juice; no published analysis has been verified. These bands were authored from description; published analyses of this fruit have since been transcribed onto the record from named trial programmes and are shown above. The bands are not derived from those figures, which is why this profile is marked as classified rather than measured.

A moderately sharp juice with light grip and a distinct aromatic character, giving a perry with more definition than most Herefordshire fruit of its class.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Gregg’s Pit. Perry pears have been described far less than they have been analysed, and much of what a perry smells of is produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Gregg’s Pit into a blend

Measured analysis

Each figure is shown with where and when it was taken. They are not averaged: the same cultivar grown in another climate genuinely gives different numbers, and collapsing them into one would be the most misleading thing this page could do.

Reported analyses of Gregg’s Pit, by property and source
PropertyReadingWhereWhenSource
Free amino nitrogen42.3 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Phenolic acids130.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Proline123.7 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Sorbitol10.0–30.0 g/LVarious growing sites; the literature pools pear juice analyses rather than reporting by orchard—Various journals and institute reports
Specific gravity1.058 SGGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Titratable acidity4.0 g/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total primary amino acids222.9 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total phenolics540.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
Total tannin410.0 mg/LGloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties, England2022Modern analysisCider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)
How these were measured
  • Juice pressed from fruit collected in the Three Counties and frozen before analysis. Published to five decimal places and shown at the three the site displays.
  • Titration, reported as malic acid.
  • “True tannin” — the polymerised phenolic fraction, measured separately from the phenolic acids. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • Phenolic acids measured separately from the tannin fraction. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • The sum of the true tannin and phenolic acid fractions as the surveyor reports it. Published in grams per litre and stored here in milligrams per litre by exact conversion.
  • HPLC. The survey’s column is the total of the primary (assimilable) amino acids, summed by mass; proline, a secondary amino acid, is reported in its own column and is not included. In eleven of the thirty-seven samples proline alone exceeds this figure.
  • Free amino nitrogen, calculated from the individual amino acids as nitrogen available to yeast. Excludes proline.
  • HPLC.
  • A general pear juice figure rather than an analysis of this cultivar. Recorded here because single-variety Gregg’s Pit perry is made and sold as dry, and the sweetness drinkers report in it is sorbitol rather than residual sugar. The range is not tied to a single study or season.
  • One sample from one source in one season. The surveyor reports the same variety differing markedly between years, sites and tree types, and publishes the samples separately rather than pooling them.
  • Measured as “true tannin” — the polymerised phenolic fraction — separately from the phenolic acids. It is not a Folin–Ciocalteu total and not a permanganate total, and should be compared only with figures produced the same way.
  • Perry pear juice runs far lower in assimilable nitrogen than cider apple juice, a difference the Long Ashton workers reported and this survey confirms across most of the varieties sampled. Several readings here sit below the level at which a ferment is generally expected to need feeding.
  • Proline is an amino acid a wine or cider yeast cannot assimilate without oxygen, so it does not count towards usable nitrogen. In these pear juices it routinely exceeds the whole assimilable amino pool, which is why a perry must can be rich in amino acids and starved of nitrogen at the same time.

Where it sits among the varieties each programme measured

Gregg’s Pit against every other variety the same programme measured the same way. Repeat samples are reduced to their median first, and where a programme published a range and not a single figure the midpoint of that range stands for it. Laboratories disagree on absolute figures more than on order, so the position is the sturdier reading.
ProgrammePropertyGregg’s PitProgramme medianPosition
The Three Counties perry pear surveyTitratable acidity as malic4.0 g/L5.2 g/LAbove 7 and below 25 of the other 32: lowest quarter
The Three Counties perry pear surveyTotal tannin410 mg/L630 mg/LAbove 2, level with 1, below 30 of the other 33: lowest quarter
The Three Counties perry pear surveyTotal phenolics540 mg/L860 mg/LAbove 3 and below 30 of the other 33: lowest quarter
The Three Counties perry pear surveySpecific gravity1.0581.058Above 16, level with 3, below 14 of the other 33: upper middle
The Three Counties perry pear surveyFree amino nitrogen42 mg/L22 mg/LAbove 28 and below 5 of the other 33: highest quarter
The Three Counties perry pear surveyTotal primary amino acids223 mg/L136 mg/LAbove 25 and below 8 of the other 33: highest quarter
The Three Counties perry pear surveyProline124 mg/L97 mg/LAbove 21 and below 12 of the other 33: upper middle
The Three Counties perry pear surveyPhenolic acids130 mg/L200 mg/LAbove 5 and below 28 of the other 33: lowest quarter

Compare within a study to see where these figures sat among the other cultivars the same work analysed — which is a more robust statement than the figures themselves, because absolute values move between laboratories and the ordering inside one study mostly survives.

Watched in the orchard

What named research programmes recorded about this fruit at their own sites. Bloom, harvest and cropping belong to a place and a run of seasons rather than to a cultivar, so they are reported site by site rather than merged.

Three Counties perry pear juice survey

Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire and neighbouring counties — the perry country itself, rather than a research station elsewhere · 2022–2024 · Cider and Perry Academy (Peter Mitchell)

The lower Severn and Wye vales: mild, wet, and the only ground in Britain where perry pears have ever been grown at scale. Fruit was collected across three autumns, and the survey reports each collection separately rather than pooling the seasons.

Held as
Sample GP-Oct22

Juice from single varieties, frozen before analysis. Specific gravity; titratable acidity by titration as malic acid; “true tannin” and phenolic acids measured as separate fractions; individual amino acids by HPLC, with free amino nitrogen calculated from them and proline reported apart because yeast cannot assimilate it anaerobically. Where samples differed by location, tree age or year, they are reported separately.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Mid flowering band
Vigour
Very vigorous — a large tree that takes years to settle to cropping
Cropping
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Poor — mill soon after picking

Late September into October, with the usual short window. The National Perry Pear Collection records it ripening in the first half of October at Hartpury, which agrees with the window recorded here.

Mid-season. Self-incompatible. The National Perry Pear Collection places it in the mid flowering band, from flowering records kept over many seasons.

Pears need a pollinator

Pears are not self-fertile. A variety needs another in blossom at the same time to set fruit, which is why the flowering band matters more in a perry orchard than the harvest window does.

Ripening moves with the site and the season. Where the National Perry Pear Collection’s observation at Hartpury falls in a different band from the window recorded here, both are kept rather than one overwriting the other.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Pear scabmoderate—
Self-incompatibilityhigh—

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Established as a single-varietal cider

One of the perry pears most reliably encountered as a named single-variety perry. Where it is sold as dry, the sweetness a drinker notices is sorbitol, not residual sugar, and that distinction is worth making on a back label.

About Gregg’s Pit

Gregg’s Pit is named after a holding at Much Marcle in Herefordshire, and unlike almost every other perry pear in this file the place can be found and the tree it is named for is still standing. That matters more than it sounds. Perry pear origins are ordinarily parish tradition attached to a name whose referent has vanished; here there is an orchard, a veteran pear tree of great age, and a continuous association between the two.

The pear gives a moderately sharp juice with light tannin and a distinct aromatic character. Among Herefordshire medium-sharp pears that combination is uncommon enough to have earned it a working reputation with makers, and it is one of the small number of perry pears a drinker is likely to encounter named on a bottle rather than blended anonymously.

It also illustrates the sorbitol point clearly. A single-variety Gregg’s Pit perry can be fermented to complete dryness by the yeast and still be described as sweet by people drinking it, which is not a fault, a back-sweetening or a stopped ferment. It is the sugar alcohol the yeast cannot use, and it is present in every perry ever made.

The old trees at the site are the other half of the record. A standard perry pear can live for two or three centuries and reach fifteen metres, and a veteran specimen is a substantial living structure supporting mistletoe, lichens, invertebrates and hole-nesting birds. Traditional orchards of this kind are a recognised priority habitat in the United Kingdom, which is a fact about biodiversity before it is a fact about drink.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

Named for the holding where the tree was found and where a very old specimen survives. The place is identifiable, which is rare; the raising of the tree is not documented, which is not.

Why it matters

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

What people ask next

Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.

Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Research Evidence standard for this record. What that means.