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Woodbine

A Somerset bittersweet of mild character, grown in farm orchards and known now chiefly through conservation collections.

Also written Woodbine Apple.

Classification
Bittersweet — Long Ashton classification
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Not suited to a single-varietal cider
Blend role
Bittersweet base, Bulk juice
Origin
Somerset
Species
Malus domestica
Vigour
Moderate
Biennial bearing
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Moderate

How it is classified

Long Ashton classification

Bittersweet

Low acid, high tannin. The class that has no real equivalent in dessert fruit and that defines West Country cider.

Basis: Below about 0.45% w/v acid and above about 0.2% w/v tannin.

A mild bittersweet on description; no analysis attaches to this cultivar.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidLow
TanninModerate
SugarModerate
BitternessSlight
AstringencyNoticeable
AromaRestrained
BodyMedium
Based on: description rather than analysis

Description in Somerset cultivar listings.

Adds mild bittersweet weight and little definition.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Woodbine, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Woodbine into a blend

Measured analysis

No analysis recorded

CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Woodbine. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Not recorded
Vigour
Moderate
Cropping
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Moderate

October.

No pollination group is recorded.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Not suited to a single-varietal cider

A farm blending apple.

About Woodbine

Woodbine is a mild Somerset bittersweet that was grown on farms, pressed with everything else, and never distinguished itself. It survives in collections, and its interest is as one of the many parish cultivars that made up the bulk of English cider fruit before commercial orchards narrowed the field to a dozen names.

The name is uninformative: woodbine is honeysuckle, and it has been attached to fruit, farms and public houses across England without pattern.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

A Somerset cider apple of unrecorded origin. Woodbine is the old name for honeysuckle and has been applied to several fruits and places, so it carries no locality information.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

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Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.