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Black Vallis

A dark-skinned Somerset bittersweet from the Frome district, giving firm tannin from a heavy-cropping tree.

Also written Black Vallace, Blackvallis.

Classification
Bittersweet — Long Ashton classification
Harvest
Late (Late October)
Single varietal
Not suited to a single-varietal cider
Blend role
Tannin and structure, Bittersweet base, Late season
Origin
Somerset, associated with the Frome district
Species
Malus domestica
Vigour
Vigorous
Biennial bearing
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Good

How it is classified

Long Ashton classification

Bittersweet

Low acid, high tannin. The class that has no real equivalent in dessert fruit and that defines West Country cider.

Basis: Below about 0.45% w/v acid and above about 0.2% w/v tannin.

A medium to full bittersweet on description; no analysis attaches to this cultivar.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidLow
TanninFirm
SugarModerate
BitternessModerate
AstringencyDrying
AromaRestrained
BodyMedium
Based on: description rather than analysis

Description in Somerset cultivar listings.

Adds firm, slightly drying tannin and dark colour to the pomace.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Black Vallis, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Black Vallis into a blend

Measured analysis

No analysis recorded

CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Black Vallis. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Late
Flowering
Not recorded
Vigour
Vigorous
Cropping
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Good

Late October.

A heavy cropper by the standards of its class.

No pollination group is recorded.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Not suited to a single-varietal cider

A structural blending fruit.

About Black Vallis

Black Vallis is a dark, late Somerset bittersweet from the east of the county, an area with a rather different orchard tradition from the Taunton and Martock districts that produced most of the famous fruit. It gives firm tannin and crops heavily, and it was a working cultivar rather than a prized one.

The name divides into a description and a place: black for the skin, Vallis for the valley near Frome. Whether the tree came from there is not documented, and the spelling has drifted — Vallace and Vallis both appear.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

Named for its dark skin and a local place or family name. The Vallis element points to the Vallis valley near Frome; the connection is plausible and undocumented.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

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Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.