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Antoinette

A Norman bittersweet of moderate tannin and reliable habit, one of the cultivars that came through twentieth-century selection into modern French orchards.

Classification
Bittersweet — French cider apple families
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Rarely bottled on its own
Blend role
Bittersweet base, Bulk juice
Origin
Normandy
Species
Malus domestica
Flowering
Pollination group 3
Vigour
Moderate
Biennial bearing
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Moderate

How it is classified

French cider apple families

Bittersweet · Douce-amère

Low acid with substantial tannin.

Basis: Tannin 2 to 3 g/L and acidity below 3 g/L as H₂SO₄.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidLow
TanninModerate
SugarHigh
BitternessModerate
AstringencyNoticeable
AromaPresent
BodyMedium
Based on: its recorded classification

French bittersweet family placement.

A mild, rounded bitterness with low acid and a soft finish; nothing sharp anywhere in it.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Antoinette, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Antoinette into a blend

Measured analysis

No analysis recorded

CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Antoinette. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Pollination group 3
Vigour
Moderate
Cropping
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Moderate

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Rarely bottled on its own

Sound and undistinguished alone.

About Antoinette

Antoinette belongs to the middle rank of Norman bittersweets: a fruit that does its job, keeps a mill supplied, and is very rarely singled out. Its tannin sits in the middle of the douce-amère family, its acid is low in the way all Norman bittersweets are low, and its cropping is regular enough for a commercial block.

Records like this are the majority of any national cultivar list, and it is worth being explicit about that. The named, celebrated cultivars — Binet Rouge, Kermerrien, Médaille d’Or — are a small minority of what is actually planted and pressed. Most cider, in Normandy as elsewhere, is made from competent fruit that nobody writes about.

The honest limit of what can be said here is the classification, the harvest window and the orchard behaviour. There is no verified analysis, no origin record, and no body of tasting description specific to the cultivar, and the record says so rather than filling the space.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

A personal name of the kind attached to a seedling by whoever noticed it. No raiser and no date are recorded.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

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Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.