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Argile Rouge

A late, dark-skinned Norman bittersweet whose name refers to the heavy red clay soils it was selected on, and which behaves very differently on lighter ground.

Also written Argile Rouge de Normandie.

Classification
Bittersweet — French cider apple families
Harvest
Late (Late October)
Single varietal
Rarely bottled on its own
Blend role
Tannin and structure, Late season, Sugar and body
Origin
Normandy
Species
Malus domestica
Flowering
Pollination group 4
Vigour
Vigorous
Biennial bearing
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Good

How it is classified

French cider apple families

Bittersweet · Douce-amère

Low acid with substantial tannin.

Basis: Tannin 2 to 3 g/L and acidity below 3 g/L as H₂SO₄.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidLow
TanninFirm
SugarModerate
BitternessModerate
AstringencyDrying
AromaRestrained
BodyFull
Based on: its recorded classification

French bittersweet family placement.

Firm and dry with a slightly earthy bitterness; the skin colour carries into the must and the finished cider keeps a bronze tint.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Argile Rouge, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Argile Rouge into a blend

Measured analysis

No analysis recorded

CiderHQ holds no sourced juice analysis for Argile Rouge. Figures for this cultivar circulate, but they reach the present through compilation rather than through the original tables, and publishing a number we cannot attribute would give it an authority it has not earned. What is known about how the fruit behaves is described above and below.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Late
Flowering
Pollination group 4
Vigour
Vigorous
Cropping
Markedly biennial — heavy and light years alternate
Keeping
Good

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
CankerhighSerious on the wet clays the cultivar is named for, which is an awkward fact about a fruit selected on that ground.

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Rarely bottled on its own

Rarely bottled alone; the flavour is solid rather than distinctive and the acid deficit is severe.

About Argile Rouge

Argile Rouge takes its name from the red clay of parts of Normandy, and the naming is a reminder that traditional cultivars were selected in place. A fruit noticed and propagated because it did well on heavy wet ground is not necessarily a fruit that will do well anywhere, and Argile Rouge’s tannin and sugar both shift noticeably with site.

In blends it contributes structure and colour. The must is deeply pigmented and a cider with a substantial Argile Rouge fraction holds a bronze cast that is visible in the glass, which matters in a tradition where cider is served in wide bowls and looked at. Its acid is very low even by Norman standards, so it is used with sharp fruit or with deliberate acid correction.

Canker is its persistent problem, and the irony is worth stating: the wet clay that gave the cultivar its name and its selection environment is also where canker does most damage. Growers on lighter Norman slopes report far less trouble with it, which suggests the disease record attached to the cultivar is partly a record of where it has been planted.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

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Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.