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Improved Dove

A selected form of the Devon bittersweet Dove, giving better cropping and cleaner fruit than the original while keeping its soft, full tannin.

Also written Improved Dove Apple.

Classification
Bittersweet — Long Ashton classification
Harvest
Mid (Late September to mid October)
Single varietal
Rarely bottled on its own
Blend role
Bittersweet base, Sugar and body, Tannin and structure
Origin
Devon
Species
Malus domestica
Flowering
Pollination group 3
Vigour
Moderate
Biennial bearing
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Moderate

How it is classified

Long Ashton classification

Bittersweet

Low acid, high tannin. The class that has no real equivalent in dessert fruit and that defines West Country cider.

Basis: Below about 0.45% w/v acid and above about 0.2% w/v tannin.

A medium bittersweet with soft tannin.

Every classification on CiderHQ names its system. Why there is more than one.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidVery low
TanninFirm
SugarHigh
BitternessModerate
AstringencyNoticeable
AromaRestrained
BodyFull
Based on: published analysis

Long Ashton acid and tannin ranges, with the caveat that the figures may not distinguish this selection from its parent.

Contributes soft, rounded tannin and good body, in the same register as Dabinett.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Improved Dove, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Improved Dove into a blend

Measured analysis

Each figure is shown with where and when it was taken. They are not averaged: the same cultivar grown in another climate genuinely gives different numbers, and collapsing them into one would be the most misleading thing this page could do.

Total acid0.120–0.220 % w/v

Long Ashton, Somerset, England, Long Ashton analyses, 1903–1985 · Titration of pressed juice, reported as malic acid · National Fruit and Cider Institute / University of Bristol

Historic single-site fruit. Figures attributed to Dove and to Improved Dove are not always distinguished in the literature.

How much acid the juice contains, conventionally reported as malic acid. Measured in percent weight per volume.

Total tannin0.200–0.300 % w/v

Long Ashton, Somerset, England, Long Ashton analyses, 1903–1985 · National Fruit and Cider Institute / University of Bristol

A range rather than a value, and one that may include analyses of the unimproved Dove.

The phenolic fraction responsible for bitterness and astringency. Measured in percent weight per volume.

Compare within a study to see where these figures sat among the other cultivars the same work analysed — which is a more robust statement than the figures themselves, because absolute values move between laboratories and the ordering inside one study mostly survives.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Mid
Flowering
Pollination group 3
Vigour
Moderate
Cropping
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Moderate

October.

The improvement being claimed is chiefly in cropping regularity, and by report it is real.

Disease and pest susceptibility

Recorded susceptibility. Pressure differs enormously by region and by season, so these are tendencies rather than predictions.
IssueSusceptibilityNote
Scabmoderate

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Rarely bottled on its own

Rarely bottled alone; soft and full, with no acid to carry it.

About Improved Dove

Improved Dove is one of a small number of English cider apples that exist because someone looked at a serviceable local fruit and picked a better tree out of it. The original Dove is a Devon bittersweet with soft tannin and irregular cropping; the improvement is understood to be in the cropping rather than in the juice.

In a blend it does very much what Dabinett does — soft tannin, good sugar, real body, no acid — and it is used the same way. Where a Devon orchard has both, they are effectively interchangeable in the tank.

The analytical record is muddled by the naming. Figures published for "Dove" may or may not be for this selection, and the two have been listed together, separately, and as synonyms in different places. Any number attached to either should be read as covering the pair.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

A selection from Devon Dove material. Who made the selection and when is not recorded; "Improved" is a nursery designation rather than a documented event.

Parentage · not established

Understood as a selection or sport from Dove rather than a seedling of it. The relationship is universally asserted and has not been tested genetically.

Other names this fruit is known by. Each is a name for the same cultivar, not a separate one — which is why none of them has a page of its own.
NameKindNote
DoveDisputed identityThe unimproved original is a distinct cultivar and is recorded separately. Old orchard lists using "Dove" alone cannot be assigned to one or the other.

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Parentage

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

What people ask next

Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.

Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Traditional record Evidence standard for this record. What that means.