Equipment
Oak vats and wooden tuns
Why was cider fermented in big wooden vats, and does anyone still do it?
In short
A vat or tun is a large staved wooden vessel, usually upright and open-topped or loosely covered, holding anything from a few hundred to many thousands of litres. It was the standard fermentation vessel in England, France and Spain before stainless steel.
Wood is not inert. Oxygen crosses the staves slowly, the wood absorbs and releases liquid, and the surface holds a microbial population that survives from season to season.
Vats persist today partly for character and partly because the vessel is a fixed asset that predates everyone working around it — many are too large to remove from the building they were built in.
How a vat is made and why the shape matters
A vat is coopered from riven or sawn staves held by iron or wooden hoops, with a head fitted into a croze groove. Oak dominates in England and much of France; chestnut is common in Asturias and in parts of France and Italy, and other timbers appear regionally. The staves swell when wet and it is that swelling, not any sealant, that makes the joint tight — which is why an empty vat that dries out leaks when refilled and needs to be swelled with water before use.
Upright vats have a small surface-to-volume ratio relative to a barrel of the same capacity, so they lose heat slowly and, at large size, hold fermentation warmth well. That is an advantage in an unheated stone building in November and a liability in a warm September, and the traditional response was to control the timing of the fill rather than the temperature of the vessel.
Large vats are effectively fixtures. They are built or assembled in place, and the head is fitted with a manway a person can climb through. That manway is the reason for the single most serious hazard in a traditional cider house.
What wood does to the ferment
Oxygen ingress through wood is slow but continuous, and it is dominated by the head and the joints rather than by diffusion through the stave face. A ferment in wood therefore has a small, steady oxygen supply that a sealed stainless tank does not, which supports yeast health early on and supports acetic acid bacteria later if the vat is not kept full.
The wood surface, and particularly a vat that has been in use for decades, holds a resident population: Saccharomyces strains, lactic acid bacteria that will carry out malolactic conversion without inoculation, Brettanomyces and Dekkera, film yeasts, and acetic acid bacteria. A traditional producer relies on this. It is the mechanism behind the claim that a particular vat makes a particular cider, and there is a real basis to it, though the population is not stable and a vat can turn.
Large old vats give very little flavour extraction from the wood itself. The extractable compounds — oak lactones, vanillin, the tannins of new oak — are long gone, and the inner surface is coated with tartrate and organic deposit. A hundred-year-old vat is best understood as an inert porous container with a biofilm, not as a flavouring vessel.
The cleaning problem
Wood cannot be sanitised in the way stainless can. The surface is porous to a depth of several millimetres, it is scored and checked, and hot caustic — the tool that solves this in steel — attacks lignin and degrades the timber. What is available is hot water, physical scrubbing, mild alkali such as soda ash, steam, and historically the burning of a sulphur wick inside the closed vessel to fill it with sulphur dioxide gas.
That means a wooden vat is managed rather than cleaned. It is kept full, kept wet, kept cool, and monitored; a vat that has produced a spoiled batch is treated as suspect for the next several fills. Where a vat has gone thoroughly acetic, the honest position is that it may not be recoverable and that continuing to use it will spoil what goes into it.
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Questions this page covers, so you can tell at a glance whether it is the one you want.
- Is cider better fermented in wood?
- Can you sterilise a wooden cider vat?
- What size were traditional cider vats?
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What people ask next
Questions readers ask about the things this page mentions. Each one goes to the section that answers it rather than to a page written to receive the question.
- How does cider ferment — Yeast consumes the sugar in apple juice and produces roughly equal masses of ethanol and carbon dioxide, along with the esters and higher alcohols that give cider much of its aroma. In a wild ferment several yeast species take turns before *Saccharomyces* finishes the job.
- What vessel should i ferment cider in, and does the shape matter — The material question comes down to three properties: how much oxygen crosses the wall, whether the vessel adds or absorbs flavour, and whether the surface can genuinely be cleaned and sanitised.
- Can you fix a cider that has gone vinegary — Not really. Volatile acidity cannot be removed at small scale, and blending it away only dilutes it. The realistic options are to accept it, to blend a lightly affected batch into a much larger sound one, or to let it finish becoming vinegar.
- How do you clean a cider barrel or a wooden vat
- What is malolactic fermentation — Malolactic fermentation is a bacterial conversion of sharp malic acid into softer lactic acid, releasing carbon dioxide. It lowers total acidity and raises pH, and in cider it is often the source of a farmyard or buttery note as well.
- What should i ferment cider in — Anything inert, cleanable and closable: glass demijohns, food-grade plastic, stainless steel, or a wooden cask if you can keep it sound. Vessel shape and material change how much oxygen the cider sees and how fast it clears.
Sources
What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.
Hereford Museum of Cider collections and interpretation
Hereford Cider Museum Trust · museum · retrieved 2026-08-24
Somerset Rural Life Museum — cider collections
South West Heritage Trust · museum · retrieved 2026-08-24
The Science of Cidermaking and associated technical writing
Andrew Lea · reference work · passage verified 2026-08-24
Written by a food chemist who worked at Long Ashton on apple phenolics. Unusual among specialist cider writing in that it is primary-research-adjacent: the author is describing work he did, and cites the literature. This is why it is registered at tier 1 for chemistry while a general cider book is not.
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