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Douce de l’Avent

A French cider apple named for Advent, with the lowest phenolic figure but one in the institute’s 2018 characterisation.

Also written Douce de l’Avant, Douce de lAvent.

Classification
Not classified under any recorded system
Harvest
Very late (November onwards)
Single varietal
Rarely bottled on its own
Blend role
Sugar and body, Late season
Origin
France
Species
Malus domestica
Vigour
Vigorous
Biennial bearing
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Good

How it is classified

No recorded classification

CiderHQ holds no French family classification for Douce de l’Avent, and the reason is evidential rather than geographic. The French scheme is defined on acidity thresholds stated in grams per litre — douce below 4.5, acidulée to 6.75, aigre above — and the dataset that measures this cultivar publishes an acidity column whose unit it does not name. Under one of the two conventions in use the fruit falls on one side of a threshold and under the other it falls on the opposite side. Publishing a class would mean publishing a guess, so the measurement is published and the label is not.

What it contributes to a blend

A direction, not a measurement. These bands are the level of resolution the evidence supports, and they say which way adding this fruit pushes a blend rather than what the finished cider will be.

Contribution to a blend, scored 1–5 as a band. The filled segment is the typical value; the paler segments are the range.
AxisTypicalRange
AcidModerate
TanninModerate
SugarHigh
BitternessSlight
AstringencyNoticeable
AromaPresent
BodyMedium
Based on: published analysis

A 2018 IFPC analysis: 6.1 g/L malic acid, pH 4.1, 540 mg/L total polyphenols, specific gravity 1.062.

A high-gravity juice with modest phenolics and moderate acid — sugar and body more than structure.

Aroma

No aroma descriptors are recorded for Douce de l’Avent, and for a great deal of cider fruit that is a finding rather than a gap. Bittersweet apples in particular contribute tannin, sugar and body while being close to aromatically mute, and most of what a cider made from them smells of was produced by the fermentation rather than carried in by the fruit. CiderHQ publishes the absence rather than filling the space with descriptors nothing supports.

Put Douce de l’Avent into a blend

Measured analysis

Each figure is shown with where and when it was taken. They are not averaged: the same cultivar grown in another climate genuinely gives different numbers, and collapsing them into one would be the most misleading thing this page could do.

Malic acid6.1 g/L

France — orchards supplying the IFPC cider-apple juice characterisation, 2018 · Reported as malic acid. Single-season characterisation of twelve varieties chosen as recent or commonly planted. · Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles (IFPC)

The dominant acid in apple and pear juice, and the one that tastes sharp. Measured in grams per litre.

Specific gravity1.062 SG

France — orchards supplying the IFPC cider-apple juice characterisation, 2018 · Published as density in grams per litre (masse volumique) and stored here as specific gravity by exact division; no temperature correction is stated by the source. · Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles (IFPC)

Juice density, the practical proxy for sugar before fermentation. Measured in specific gravity.

pH4.10 pH

France — orchards supplying the IFPC cider-apple juice characterisation, 2018 · Meter on pressed juice. · Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles (IFPC)

Acid strength, which governs microbial risk and sulphite effectiveness. Measured in ph.

Total phenolics539.7 mg/L

France — orchards supplying the IFPC cider-apple juice characterisation, 2018 · Total polyphenols; the presentation does not name the assay, though the magnitudes are consistent with Folin–Ciocalteu. · Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles (IFPC)

The assay is not named by the source. Compare with other French figures rather than with a permanganate tannin figure.

All phenolic compounds together, usually reported as gallic acid equivalents. Measured in milligrams per litre.

Compare within a study to see where these figures sat among the other cultivars the same work analysed — which is a more robust statement than the figures themselves, because absolute values move between laboratories and the ordering inside one study mostly survives.

Watched in the orchard

What named research programmes recorded about this fruit at their own sites. Bloom, harvest and cropping belong to a place and a run of seasons rather than to a cultivar, so they are reported site by site rather than merged.

IFPC cider apple juice characterisation

France — orchards supplying the Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles · 2018 · Institut Français des Productions Cidricoles (IFPC)

Northern French cider country, chiefly Normandy and Brittany: maritime, mild, wet, and the closest continental analogue to the English West Country. The source does not break the samples down by orchard, so the location here is as precise as the evidence allows.

Held as
Listed as “Douce de l’Avent”
Published here, not republished by CiderHQ
  • Total acidity, published as A “total acidity” column, ranging 0.9 to 9.1 across the twelve varieties. The source does not state the unit. The French convention expresses total acidity as sulphuric acid, which would put it at 0.73 times the malic figure; the printed ratio is nearer 0.45 to 0.55, which matches neither that convention nor a malic one. Rather than guess a unit and publish a number in it, CiderHQ publishes the malic acid figure the source does label and records this column as unusable.

Twelve varieties, one harvest. Malic acid, total acidity, density, pH and total polyphenols measured on pressed juice; sensory profiling run alongside on the same juices. The assay behind the polyphenol column is not named, and the unit behind the total acidity column is not stated.

In the orchard

Harvest window
Very late
Flowering
Not recorded
Vigour
Vigorous
Cropping
Slightly biennial
Keeping
Good

Not directly recorded. The name points at Advent, which in fruit naming generally indicates very late ripening or long keeping; CiderHQ records the inference as an inference.

If the name records what such names usually record, this is fruit that holds.

Not recorded in any source CiderHQ has verified.

Juice and pressing

How it is used

On its own

Rarely bottled on its own

Little phenolic structure and moderate acid gives a cider without much to say for itself.

About Douce de l’Avent

Douce de l’Avent is a French cider apple named for Advent. Fruit names invoking a saint’s day or a season generally record when the fruit is ready or how long it keeps, and a variety named for the weeks before Christmas is most likely a very late or long-keeping one — though CiderHQ records that as an inference from the name rather than as a documented harvest date, because no source it holds states one.

The French cider institute measured it in 2018 at a gravity of 1.062, 6.1 grams per litre of malic acid, pH 4.1 and 540 milligrams per litre of total polyphenols. That last figure is the second lowest in its twelve-variety set, and it is worth setting beside the highest: Marie Ménard, in the same study and the same season, measured 2 333. A more than fourfold spread within one country’s working planting stock is a useful corrective to the idea that "French cider apple" describes a composition.

Its role in a blend follows from the numbers: sugar and body, with enough acid to be useful and very little structure. That is a perfectly ordinary and necessary job — a blend made entirely of Marie Ménard would be undrinkable — but it is not a fruit anybody makes a single-variety cider from.

Names, origin and identity

Cultivar naming is the hardest problem in cider fruit data. The same tree carries different names across ten miles, and two different trees have shared a name for two centuries.

Origin · traditional account

A French cider variety whose name points at Advent — the weeks before Christmas — which in fruit naming usually means very late ripening or long keeping rather than a December harvest.

Why it matters

Related cultivars

Recorded relationships, including the ones this fruit is routinely confused with.

Fruit that plays a similar part

Cultivars sharing a classification under the same system and a comparable role in a blend. Not a similarity score — a stated relationship.

Where it grows

What people ask next

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Where to go next

Sources

What this page rests on. Where a source is marked as registered rather than read, CiderHQ is recording that the body is authoritative on the subject without claiming to have worked through the document itself. See our evidence policy for what each state means.

Research Evidence standard for this record. What that means.